Donald Trump es elegido como el Presidente número 45 de los Estados Unidos.

[Philomena]

A mi me parece una vergüenza que ante la guerra, un pueblo como Siria huyan todos en vez de armarse de valor por su país y luchar,, eso no ocurriría ni en España, ni en Marruecos, ni en ningún otro país, no imagino aquí en España huyendo Todos al pais vecino de Francia.

Saludos.

Otra de las tipicas narrativas y argumentos que te encuentras en todas las web de extrema derecha de Europa.

Pues anda que no hay gente en Siria luchando, tan fragmentados en tantos grupos que cambian de lado cada mes que la poblacion civil ya ni sabe de donde les viene el golpe.

Y llevan 5 años asi. No uno o dos...cinco. Asi que los que han podido y tienen familia...han salido por patas porque aquello tiene pinta de durar otros 5 años mas. A mi me pilla una guerra de eso tipo, con bombardeos masivos dia y noche, ataques con armas quimicas y grupos radicales y un ejercito sirio que casi da mas miedo....vamos, agarro a mi familia y salgo por patas.

En España, del 36 al 39 hicimos lo mismo, por cierto. Cruzamos a Francia, a Oran en Argelia, se mando a los niños a Reino Unido, los niños de Rusia y barcos a Mexico, Cuba, Chile y Argentina. Tras la rendicion....ya fue la hecatombe.

 

[pilou12]

 

[el porqué de las cosas]

Venga, la noticia de la manhana que demuestra cuan fiables son los medios de comunicacion rusos:

Russlands største TV-kanal hevder det er rasjonering på grønnsaker i butikkene i Norge
http://www.aftenposten.no/verden/Ru...a-gronnsaker-i-butikkene-i-Norge-614582b.html

Traduzco/Resumen: El canal mas grande de TV ruso afirma que las frutas y hortalizas estan racionadas en Noruega, que nuestras tiendas estan vacias y que solo podemos comprar dos lechugas por familia. Tb hablan del problema en Dinamarca e Inglaterra...La realidad? Los supermercados estan abastecidos y funcionan con normalidad.

Tb se hace hincapie en la noticia, que cada vez son mas comunes este tipo de noticias falsas en los medios de comunicacion rusos...una guerra de propaganda de tomo y lomo.

para que no exista la propaganda, ni de un lado ni del otro, lo único que se necesita es ir a las fuente e intentar a verificar por uno sólo las noticias. y luego sentar cátedra de esto u de lo otro. algo de google translator + sentido común.

la noticia en el canal TV ruso:



http://www.1tvnet.ru/content/show/n...olkah-i-deficite-ovoschei-v-evrope_37086.html

Как пишет британская пресса, действительно, из-за проблем с поставками из южных стран Европы (Испании , в частности) возникли трудности у магазинов. По словам представителей торговых сетей, нормировать продажу овощей приходится, чтобы владельцы ресторанов и маленьких магазинов не скупили все оптом.

"Непривычно пусто в магазинах Британии, Норвегии, Дании. Продажи того, что осталось в запасах, строго нормируют. Например, отпускают несколько салатов и кочанов брокколи на человека", — сообщила в эфире ведущая новостного выпуска.

Поводом стала публикация Daily Mail, фотографии этой же газеты показали в качестве видеоряда на Первом.
Также подтверждается и информация о резком повышении цен. Так, в три раза подорожал салат латук в сети Aldi в Британии — с 40 пенсов до 1,2 фунтов (с 30 до 120 рублей за качан, эти цены на Первом канале назвали "заоблачными").

Причина перебоев поставок — низкие урожаи из-за зимней непогоды.

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La fuente de la noticia, citada en el reportaje ruso - Daily Mail

Lettuce shortage in Europe as bad weather hits farms
By Associated Press

PUBLISHED: 17:24 GMT, 3 February 2017 | UPDATED: 17:25 GMT, 3 February 2017

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LONDON (AP) — Europe is short of lettuce, broccoli and other vegetables due to bad weather, leading some supermarkets in Britain to start rationing produce.

A succession of droughts, floods and cold weather in southern European countries has hurt agricultural yields, creating a drop in supply felt mainly by importing countries to the north.

Stores in Britain were rationing Friday the number of lettuces shoppers can buy, with some removing iceberg, sweet gem and romaine varieties from their online offerings. Similar shortages earlier affected courgettes, broccoli and cabbage.

An information sign warning of vegetable shortages is displayed in a supermarket in London, Friday, Feb. 3, 2017. Europe is suffering a shortage of lettuce, broccoli and other vegetables, with shelves going bare in some supermarkets, due to bad weather. Stores in Britain were rationing Friday the number of lettuces shoppers can buy, with some removing iceberg, sweet gem and romaine varieties from their online offerings. (AP Photo/Kirsty Wigglesworth)

Shoppers in Britain shared images of bare shelves under the hashtags #lettucecrisis and #courgettecrisis.

Analyst Rob Gregory of PlanetRetail posted a photo on Twitter of empty boxes in a Tesco supermarket. The picture showed a sign reading: "Due to continued weather problems in Spain, there is a shortage on Iceberg and other varied lettuce products. To protect the availability for all customers, we are limiting bulk purchases to three per person."

Gregory tweeted: "My local Tesco also affected by the lettuce and salad rationing. Not much there to ration though!"

British supermarket chain Asda said in a statement that, "Contrary to popular belief it seems the rain in Spain doesn't fall mainly on the plane and a run of unusually bad weather has resulted in availability issues on a small number of salad items and vegetables such as courgettes and aubergines."

Spain's federation of vegetable exporters, Fepex, said it was trying to keep up supply to European markets.

But even in Spain overall production of vegetables was 30 percent below normal levels, due to the bad weather over the past three months, said the group. Cold weather and snow in January also delayed new crops and made a full recovery of production levels unlikely until April, Fepex said.

An empty shelf of courgettes, with a sign warning of vegetable shortages, is seen in a supermarket in London, Friday, Feb. 3, 2017. Europe is suffering a shortage of lettuce, broccoli and other vegetables, with shelves going bare in some supermarkets due to bad weather. Stores in Britain were rationing Friday the number of lettuces shoppers can buy, with some removing iceberg, sweet gem and romaine varieties from their online offerings. (AP Photo/Kirsty Wigglesworth)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap...roccoli-Europe-bad-weather.html#ixzz4Y5iPFdLb
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la info- correspondiente - del canal ruso y del Daily Mail os la he puesto en rojito, por si alguien quiere tirar de google traductor para verificar "la propaganda"


efectivamente: guerra de propagandas

 

[Ruffin]

Dioh te lo pageh miarma! Mandales dos tb a los daneses e ingleses...toh pa loh ninhoh pobreh!
Deja el whiskis que te sienta muy målåmæntæ. No sabia que habia que hacer una especialidad de ingenieria IT en teclados para poner una ñ. Te lo repito, en mi teclado hago dos pum-pum en teclitas y la tengo, pero es que no me da la gana...Asi, sin mas. Esta claro ya?

Un consejo, antes de pasar por el sub-foro de cotilleo puro, agarrate bien a la botella de Licor43, porque te da un pasmo al ver como escribimos todas en idioma andalusih preponderanteh.

Que si "manolita" que si.
Y quien se atreve con Ustee....

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[el porqué de las cosas]

jajaja...10 minutos de mi tiempo tirados...bastaba con pinchar en el enlace de Daily Mail en el articulo noruego que cito, tan amablemente Manolita :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4185686/No-three-lettuces-customer.html

Supermarkets RATION salads and veg after storms in Spain devastate crops with shortages due to last until APRIL (and a box of 12 iceberg lettuces is even being offered on Gumtree for £50)

• Supermarkets started rationing vegetables following a shortage due to floods
• Morrisons has imposed a limit of two iceberg lettuces for every customer
• The shortage began with aubergines and has now spread to other vegetables
• Price of Iceberg lettuces - normally available for 50p - has risen to more than £1

By Sean Poulter, Consumer Affairs Correspondent For The Daily Mail and Charlie Moore For Mailonline

PUBLISHED: 19:53 GMT, 2 February 2017 | UPDATED: 15:06 GMT, 6 February 2017

Supermarkets are rationing vegetables after snow and storms in the Mediterranean have caused shortages which will last until April.

Supermarket shelves have been left bare as shoppers rushed to stock up on greens.

Prices have rocketed with courgettes, normally costing 45p, being sold for £1.90 and lettuces, normally 40p, costing £1.17.

Morrisons has imposed a limit of three heads of broccoli and two iceberg lettuces per customer throughout its 492 stores and Tesco has limited customers to three lettuces.

Sainsbury's: There is a vegetable shortage in some Sainsbury's stores as shelves are left bare

Morrisons: The cost of an iceberg is now up to £1.17 - they are normally as cheap as 40p

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Profiteering: A hopeful entrepreneur is selling a box of iceberg lettuces on Gumtree for an eye-watering £50

The crisis isn't only affecting supermarkets as the online stores of the big grocers are restricting supply by listing many popular vegetables as unavailable.

And garden centre chain Wyevale Garden Centres has seized on the crisis by buying in more 'grow your own' vegetable seeds and plants so families can become more self-sufficient.

A hopeful entrepreneur is selling a box of iceberg lettuces on Gumtree for an eye-watering £50 as he tries to cash in on the vegetable shortage.

The seller named 'Dave' from Acocks Green in Birmingham is flogging a box of 12 'freshly picked' lettuces, which would normally cost £5, for £50, or £4.16 each.

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Tesco: A notice in a Tesco store stated that it has started limiting bulk purchases of iceberg lettuces to three per person

Morrisons: Shelves were empty at a Morrisons store after the supermarket imposed a limit of three heads of broccoli and three iceberg lettuces per customer throughout its 492 stores

Consumers can now expect shortages of iceberg lettuce, baby spinach, mixed leaves, rocket, lollo rossa, cauliflower, broccoli, peppers, cucumbers, tomatoes, lemons, and oranges.

And industry leaders say these shortages and resulting high prices could last until April for some produce.

A Morrisons spokesman said: 'As a result of the fact that the Spanish harvest has been very difficult this year, we have just about enough coming in to supply our customers.

Morrisons: A notice in a Bristol store read: 'We are sorry that the recent extreme weather in Spain is affecting supply'

Hands off our veg! Security guards surround boxes of courgettes at a warehouse in Bristol

Aldi: Iceberg lettuces were available to buy from Aldi stores but for an increased price of £1.19 - they can be as cheap as 40p

Sainsbury's: In Sale, Greater Manchester, stocks of several salad products were depleted. Just two courgettes remained, at a staggering £1.90 each

'We want to stop local tradespeople, restaurateurs, coming in and buying lots of stock. It is important that there is good availability for our customers.'

A notice in some Tesco stores reads: 'Due to continued weather problems in Spain there is a shortage of iceberg lettuce.

'To protect the availability to all our customers, we are limiting bulk purchases to 3 per person. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.'

 

[ManolitaGafotas]

para que no exista la propaganda, ni de un lado ni del otro, lo único que se necesita es ir a las fuente e intentar a verificar por uno sólo las noticias. y luego sentar cátedra de esto u de lo otro. algo de google translator + sentido común.

Blao blao blao...ya he ido a la fuente, porque en la noticia que te he puesto ya se habla de eso, tb del problema en Espanha y de mas cosas, y tb ponen el video punhetero (vamos, te recomiendo antes de lanzarte a contestar en ruso, te abras la noticias).

Una cosa es decir, que efectivamente la agricultura en el sur de Europa se ha visto afectada por el clima, y otra, afirmar que contamos a dos lechugas por coco y tenemos racionada la verdura

Vamos, que no, no tenemos ningun tipo de desabastecimiento, gracias por preocuparte...Hay lechugas pa tos. Esta manhana estaba el supermercado lleno, como siempre, no de lechugas espanholas pero si sudamericanas. Si tienes mucha curiosidad, yo misma te dejo una fotito esta tarde de "las jambres que pasamos".

Venga a seguir copiando y pegando, que paga el kremlin...y el otro todavia a vueltas con el teclado. Oiga? Es la Lopez Ibor? Hola.

 

[el porqué de las cosas]

- parte 2 -

Tesco said: 'Due to bad weather conditions in Spain, we are experiencing a few availability issues, but are working with our suppliers to resolve them as quickly as possible.'

Co-Op: This store in Birmingham displayed a sign saying there's currently a shortage of vegetables

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Ocado: The 60p iceberg lettuce which was sold on Ocado's website has now sold out following the shortage


Tesco: Lettuces had sold out on Tesco's website and it is believed the shortage is down to floods, snow and storms across the Mediterranean farming belt

Sainsbury's: There were only a few lettuces left at a Sainsbury's in Solihull, Birmingham

Morrisons: A sign in Greater Manchester read 'we are sorry that the recent extreme weather in Spain is affecting supply'

And Sainsbury's, with no rationing policy, said: 'Severe weather has affected crops, but we are working with our suppliers to maintain supply for our customers.'

The problem has become so serious that British wholesalers have taken the unusual step of importing produce from California, despite the high cost of air freight.

Where stores have vegetables, prices are considerably higher than a year ago. For example, the cost of an aubergine is up from 60p to 70p – 17per cent.

A pack of six standard salad tomatoes typically cost £1 a year ago, however they are now £1.37 at Morrisons or £1.40 at Asda.

A standard cauliflower is up 5 per cent to £1, a cucumber by 10 per cent to 50p, and a round lettuce is up 14 per cent to 40p.

Shoppers today expressed their concerns about the price rises and shortages.

Christina Parsons, 62, from Birmingham, told MailOnline: 'Prices are increasing all the time, a lot of the things in these supermarkets are a lot more pricey than they were a few months ago.


Hazel Swindles, left, said the crisis was affecting the way she plans meals. But Rob Wills, right, said: 'If there was a shortage of pies I'd be worried'

UK supermarkets hit by lettuce shortage

'The cost of petrol is rising too. It's an expensive time. When you're shipping so much from abroad there's that risk that something like this will happen'.

Laura Tranter, 23, said: 'I didn't realise broccoli and aubergines are affected as well. The fridge is going to be empty.'

Bernard Ryder, 76, said he thinks the situation has been worsened by the uncertainty surrounding Brexit.

He said: 'It is an unstable time economically and people do get worried about these price rises.

Lynne Macguyre, 59, added: 'I'm fearful that it will discourage people from buying veg and cause them to buy unhealthy alternatives.'

At a Tesco superstore in the leafy south Manchester suburb of Didsbury, shoppers were not allowed to buy more than three iceberg lettuces at a time.

Worried shoppers: Christina Parsons, 62, said 'it's an expensive time' and Laura Tranter, 23, said: 'The fridge is going to be empty'

No courgettes were on display in the store's fruit and veg aisle, while stocks of butterhead and Ceasar lettuce were totally empty.

Hazel Swindles, a 45-year-old GP from Sale, south Manchester, said: 'The courgette crisis is affecting the way I plan meals. I tried to get some online and the website said they were out of stock, so I didn't expect there to be any here in store either, and there wasn't. It's been like that for a couple of weeks.'

ALAN TITCHMARSH HAPPY ABOUT CRISIS



Gardening guru Alan Titchmarsh has said he is pleased about the temporary lettuce shortage - because it reminds people not to take food for granted.

Supermarkets have put limits on the number of lettuces customers can buy following an extreme mix of weather conditions in southern Spain.

The former host of Gardeners' World and the Chelsea Flower Show said too many people do not think about where their food comes from.

He said: 'As long as it's there, people take it for granted.

'But we are dependent on climate and weather and growing skill and sometimes the weather throws things at you that you can't legislate for.

'It reminds people not to take food and food producers for granted.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4185686/No-three-lettuces-customer.html#ixzz4Y5mWcENj
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[el porqué de las cosas]

Blao blao blao...ya he ido a la fuente, porque en la noticia que te he puesto ya se habla de eso, tb del problema en Espanha y de mas cosas, y tb ponen el video punhetero (vamos, te recomiendo antes de lanzarte a contestar en ruso, te abras la noticias).

Una cosa es decir, que efectivamente la agricultura en el sur de Europa se ha visto afectada por el clima, y otra, afirmar que contamos a dos lechugas por coco y tenemos racionada la verdura

Vamos, que no, no tenemos ningun tipo de desabastecimiento, gracias por preocuparte...Hay lechugas pa tos. Esta manhana estaba el supermercado lleno, como siempre, no de lechugas espanholas pero si sudamericanas. Si tienes mucha curiosidad, yo misma te dejo una fotito esta tarde de "las jambres que pasamos".

que te aproveche la lechuga que te han mandado las coticompis
y que te cunda el trabajo...yo vuelvo al mío...que no es Cotilleando

 

[ManolitaGafotas]

que te aproveche la lechuga que te han mandado las coticompis
y que te cunda el trabajo...yo vuelvo al mío...que no es Cotilleando

No...el tuyo es copiar noticias y decirnos a los demas que no tenemos lechuga. Los ingleses no se, pero nosotros tenemos

Traducete esto: MOSKVA/OSLO (Aftenposten): Grønnsakskrise gjør at vi kun får kjøpt to salater pr. person i norske dagligvarebutikker, ifølge Russlands største TV-kanal. Men det har ikke Norges største grønnsaksdistributør hørt noe om.

Ale, con dios hermosa.

 

[el porqué de las cosas]

No...el tuyo es copiar noticias y decirnos a los demas que no tenemos lechuga

Ale, con dios hermosa.

te recuerdo que fuiste tu la que pidió al foro lechugas, amiga
y allí lo dejo, de verdad...que para manipular ya están los mass-media...que aburrimiento, de verdad...

 

[ManolitaGafotas]

te recuerdo que fuiste tu la que pidió al foro lechugas, amiga
y allí lo dejo, de verdad...que para manipular ya están los mass-media...que aburrimiento, de verdad...

Venga otra parte de la noticia que yo misma he puesto, esa que dices que manipula, y tu has tomado dos horas en intentar desmentir con detalles que estan incluidos en dicha noticia:

Vrir om på britiske tabloidoppslag
De russiske TV-journalistene har tatt utgangspunkt i flere nyhetssaker i britiske medier som Daily Mail og BBC.
3. februar hadde britiske medier oppslag om at supermarkedkjedene Tesco og Morrison innførte begrensninger på hvor mange salater kundene fikk kjøpe om gangen.
Daily Mail er for øvrig storleverandør av skandaleoppslag til russiske medier om forholdene i Vest-Europa og Storbritannia.

 

[ManolitaGafotas]

De paso dejo otra de los rusos, que veo que os gustan:

Advarer mot russiske hackere foran skjebnevalgene i Europa
http://www.aftenposten.no/verden/Ad...re-foran-skjebnevalgene-i-Europa-612904b.html

Traduzco: El procedimiento será el mismo que se usó para hackear servidores Demócratas en los EE.UU. y revelar secretos embarazosos sobre Hillary Clinton: Tanto el servicio de inteligencia francés y alemán advirtieron en las últimas semanas ataques de piratas informáticos rusos para robar información sensible que se puede utilizar para influir en las elecciones.

Jugando limpio, que se dice. Un encanto...son lo que se dice, un encanto.