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Anoche, hespañoles de bien apalizando a gente por poner lazos amarillos. Mejor hunidos.
Juicio al 'procés' - Referéndum en Cataluña — El conflicto catalán
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La última hora es que el Juez de la arena quiere "estudiar" el caso de la extradición
a ver si le dan un master que le hace falta..
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Ciudadaners dice que secuestrar alemanes y poner bombas en cervecerías es bien
Gala, lo que le dije ayer a esta forera viene por un tema de hace un par de meses en otro foro, por eso me parece absurdo e incoherente que pretenda "interactuar", como ella dice, conmigo en este foro cuando, además, yo no "interactúo" con ella.
Y respecto a lo de la independencia de Cataluña, si la consiguieran no permitirían la independencia de ninguna de sus provincias, lo mismo que tanto critican y tan mal les parece del Estado español respecto a Cataluña, excepto el Valle de Arán, que desde el 2015 tiene reconocido por el Gobierno español y el catalán el derecho a decidir con quién se quedan.
Anda que la cara que tieneEl editor jefe del Suddeutsche, antiguo jefe y fiscal
Puigdemont rebellion charge was 'extremely risky' - German legal expert
Carles Puigdemont should not and will not be extradited to Spain, a leading German legal expert has told Euronews.
Heribert Prantl, Editor in Chief of Süddeutsche Zeitung in Munich has also worked as a judge and prosecutor, and says the conflict concerning Catalonia is not only a Spanish issue.
He believes European leaders should have stepped in to restrain the actions of the Spanish Prime Minister, Mariano Rajoy.
“The accusation of ‘rebellion’ was extremely risky, and indeed the decision from the court in Schleswig contains the incredibly tough sentence that Puigdemont’s behaviour is not punishable under current German law. This is a strong sentence. It is not necessarily a fundamental criticism of the rule of law in Spain. But nevertheless it is a crystal clear statement. One can now expect that the arrest warrant will ultimately be lifted - and in the foreseeable future,” he said.
Rebellion is not punishable in Germany
Heribert Prantl: The charge of ‘high treason’ in Germany - that is the rule here – has certain conditions, in Spain it is different. ‘Rebellion’ there is a simpler concept. But this concept cannot be applied to German law. Under international rules on mutual assistance in law enforcement, it would be a political offence: in the case of such an offence deportation is not possible. There remains the charge of the misuse of funds. Puigdemont – this is what he is accused of – is said to have financed the referendum with state funds – one wonders; what other funds? But this allegation is so closely related to the thwarted charge of rebellion that I do not think the arrest warrant can be based on this allegation.
Rebellion as it is defined in Spain is not punishable in Germany, therefore the arrest warrant on this point is repealed.
German government 'hid behind judges'
Euronews: Should Angela Merkel have reacted earlier?
Heribert Prantl: The entire German government has hidden behind the judges. I think it's right that you don’t try to put a spoke in the wheel with the judges or dictate what they have to do. Here, the law should be carried out according to the rule of law, and politicians should do politics. I expect politicians to start negotiating and find a political solution.
Ex-Catalan premier Carles Puigdemont is freed from prison in Neumuenster, Germany, April 6, 2018REUTERS/Fabian Bimmer
'Catalonia is not an internal Spanish affair'
Euronews: Would you have liked the EU to say something about Puigdemont and Catalonia?
Heribert Prantl: Of course they will have to say something about Puigdemont and Catalonia. You cannot pretend that the conflict is none of your business. There will be no political solution without the European Union and without the participation of the other European states. Of course, the leaders of the European Union must speak out, of course they cannot pretend that this is a purely domestic matter. The case of Puigdemont and the decision from Schleswig have shown that the effects of this great dispute go far beyond Spain and also burden the European Union.
Euronews: How would you have liked Brussels to react?
Heribert Prantl: Well, if Mr Rajoy fools around and the situation continues to escalate, then I would like Brussels and Berlin and Paris to have a moderating effect and say to him: "Dear colleague, criminal law does not help you in conflicts like this. We can offer you political support, we can offer you mediation, we can offer you help, we can offer you our experience."
The Italians can point to their experiences with South Tyrol, and for me the Germans can highlight their experiences with the Bavarians and the Saarland.
It comes down to this: how do I deal with secessionist movements? In Bavaria, this is just about folklore. And the fact that it is only folklore has to do with the fact that Germany has brought peace via federalism. Decades ago South Tyrol was bombed, and it has become a peaceful land.
Pues a mi Llarena me parece un juez que hace su trabajo a pesar de amenazas de ¿ radicales?, bueno, cualquier persona que intimida para mi es un matón, ni educados, ni europeos, ni genes suizos..matones de barrio, sin mas. Lo que me planteo es si todas esas amenazas, direcciones de jueces publicadas en foros públicos sin ningún tipo de consecuencia, fotos de su casa, su mujer...No fuese mas que un " aviso a navegantes " al juez alemán para que no se metiese en camisas de once varas. Un mira lo que hacemos los pacíficos y democrático s independentistas catalanes..
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No creo que Llarena esté más amenazado de lo que están los jueces que juzgan casos contra organizaciones armadas y de tráfico de personas, si le da palo su trabajo que renuncie a ser juez. Ah pero eso no, ¿verdad? mae mía, así nos va
A que hora son las manifestaciones en España para pedir la libertad de los botarates
¿ Donde esta el llamamiento para que los balcones del resto del pais se llenen de lacitos y estrelladas en su apoyo ?
¿ Que español no independentista lleva el lazo amarillo
¿ Iglesias a que esperas?
¿ Donde esta el llamamiento para que los balcones del resto del pais se llenen de lacitos y estrelladas en su apoyo ?
¿ Que español no independentista lleva el lazo amarillo
¿ Iglesias a que esperas?
Muy buena medida
Es igual, pero este es el tema del independentismo catalán, no creo que los independentistas se quieran poner al nivel de narcotraficantes. O si?Amm...qué monos, yo los adoptaría
No creo que Llarena esté más amenazado de lo que están los jueces que juzgan casos contra organizaciones armadas y de tráfico de personas, si le da palo su trabajo que renuncie a ser juez. Ah pero eso no, ¿verdad? mae mía, así nos va
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