Gana el Brexit: Reino Unido decide abandonar la Unión Europea

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Buongiorno. Sepan sus cotillas que resulta que el dichoso referéndum era solamente consultivo, no vinculante. Y que, como tal, el parlamento británico puede, a su vez, volver a votarlo en sede parlamentaria, donde resulta que la mayoría de los MPs son remain. Aquí os dejo un bonito vídeo de Nigel Farage admitiendo (post referéndum) que la famosa campaña de team Brexit de los 350 millones de libras que supuestamente UK da a la UE cada semana y que los brexiteers reclamaban se destinasen a la NHS (la Seguridad Social) es mentira, que en realidad son unos 190 millones y que él no puede garantizar que vayan a parar a la NHS. la presentadora se enfada bastante, como es natural:

 

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Vivimos en una dictadura encubierta, solo que el " dictador" no tiene cara definida.

 

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Este es el post:

el sito usado como fuente de esta noticia, www.yournewswire.com se dedica a inventarse noticias de lo cual tiene un largo historial; no es para nada fiable.

 

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A todo esto, las firmas de la petición online al Parlamento Británico para que convoque un 2º referéndum van ya camino del millón

 

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Lo que si puede pasar es la secesión de Escocia del RU...para encaminarse en procedimientos de integración ex novo tanto a la EU como a la OTAN...

La integración la van a hacer express, porque Escocia ya es un país de la UE y porque nada le gustaría más a Merkel que darle en los morros a los Tories de Oxbridge por montar este pitote para tapar su mala gestión al frente del gobierno.

En cuanto a la OTAN, ídem de lo mismo, porque Trident, la base de misiles y submarinos nucleares de UK, que es la base militar más importante de Europa Occidental, está en territorio escocés. Los escoceses no la quieren, ya que los convierte en objetivo militar de primer orden, pero mientras se resuelva la relocalización del complejo (lo que tardará años), si Escocia se independiza va a la OTAN desde el minuto 1.

 

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Moody's a punto de quitarle la calificación AAA a UK y los inversores comprando bono alemán en masa

 

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Yo creo que el comercio seguirá funcinando segun las leyes de espacios abiertos y tratados internacionales de los cuales Uk es miembro, estoy segura que nuevos ventures querrán instalarse en GB , como las nuevas compañias de tecnologia. Y los acuerdos diplomaticos y los acuerdos de defensa se respetaran como siempre.

Han dicho adios a un periodo pero no han perdido su pais, por mas que muchos lo quieran hacer ver asi. Y siguen siendo parte de Europa.
Las combinaciones ganadoras (para todos) no se cambian, cuando hay un cambio es por reclamo de un pueblo.

Lo que si puede pasar es la secesión de Escocia del RU...para encaminarse en procedimientos de integración ex novo tanto a la EU como a la OTAN...

Aunque dudo mucho que se llegue a esto.

Lo veo difícil que se produzca el mismo Brexit, ya que los resultados del referendum los tiene que plasmar en leyes el Parlamento y que esas leyes sean ratificadas por ambos House of Lords y Los Commons.
Si en las próximas elecciones generales, inminentes ya que Cameron dimitió, gane el partido que ofrece como promesa electoral dejar a RU DENTRO de la EU las cosas se quedarán tal cual, ya que "el voto democrático de las elecciones sustituirá el voto democrático del referendum del Brexit".

Could MPs block an EU exit?
Could the necessary legislation pass the Commons, given that a lot of MPs - all SNP and Lib Dems, nearly all Labour and many Conservatives - were in favour of staying?

The referendum result is not legally binding - Parliament still has to pass the laws that will get Britain out of the 28 nation bloc, starting with the repeal of the 1972 European Communities Act.

The withdrawal agreement also has to be ratified by Parliament - the House of Lords and/or the Commons could vote against ratification, according to a House of Commons library report.

In practice, Conservative MPs who voted to remain in the EU would be whipped to vote with the government. Any who defied the whip would have to face the wrath of voters at the next general election.

One scenario that could see the referendum result overturned, is if MPs forced a general election and a party campaigned on a promise to keep Britain in the EU, got elected and then claimed that the election mandate topped the referendum one.

Two-thirds of MPs would have to vote for a general election to be held before the next scheduled one in 2020.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887

 

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Vivimos en una dictadura encubierta, solo que el " dictador" no tiene cara definida.

Cual el hombrecito "Mago de Oz" detrás de sus máquinas de trucos, humo y espejos:

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Cornualles vota brexit pero después de conocer el resultado reclaman que se les asegure que van a seguir recibiendo del gobierno británico los mismo fondos que hasta ahora recibían de la UE . Preguntad antes.

 

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A todo esto, las firmas de la petición online al Parlamento Británico para que convoque un 2º referéndum van ya camino del millón

O sea que sí, pero no!

Aquí un artículo de la BBC "el Brexit referendum for dummies"

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887

The UK's EU referendum: All you need to know
By Brian Wheeler & Alex HuntBBC News

• 24 June 2016

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This article is designed to be an easy-to-understand guide now that the UK has voted to leave the European Union.

What has happened?
A referendum - a vote in which everyone (or nearly everyone) of voting age can take part - was held on Thursday 23 June, to decide whether the UK should leave or remain in the European Union.

Leave won by 52% to 48%.

The referendum turnout was 71.8%, with more than 30 million people voting. It was the highest turnout in a UK-wide vote since the 1992 general election.

What was the breakdown across the UK?
England voted strongly for Brexit, by 53.4% to 46.6%, as did Wales, with Leave getting 52.5% of the vote and Remain 47.5%.

Scotland and Northern Ireland both backed staying in the EU. Scotland backed Remain by 62% to 38%, while 55.8% in Northern Ireland voted Remain and 44.2% Leave.

What is the European Union?
The European Union - often known as the EU - is an economic and political partnership involving 28 European countries (click here if you want to see the full list). It began after World War Two to foster economic co-operation, with the idea that countries which trade together are more likely to avoid going to war with each other.

It has since grown to become a "single market" allowing goods and people to move around, basically as if the member states were one country.

It has its own currency, the euro, which is used by 19 of the member countries, its own parliament and it now sets rules in a wide range of areas - including on the environment, transport, consumer rights and even things such as mobile phone charges. Click here for a beginners' guide to how the EU works.

What does Brexit mean?
It is a word that has become used as a shorthand way of saying the UK leaving the EU - merging the words Britain and exit to get Brexit, in a same way as a Greek exit from the EU was dubbed Grexit in the past.

What happens now?
For the UK to leave the EU it has to invoke an agreement called Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty.

Cameron or his successor needs to decide when to invoke this - that will then set in motion the formal legal process of withdrawing from the EU, and give the UK two years to negotiate its withdrawal.

The article has only been in force since late 2009 and it hasn't been tested yet, so no-one really knows how the Brexit process will work, according to BBC legal correspondent Clive Coleman.

Mr Cameron, who has said he would be stepping down as PM by October, said he will go to the European Council next week to "explain the decision the British people have taken".

EU law still stands in the UK until it ceases being a member - and that process could take some time.

The UK will continue to abide by EU treaties and laws, but not take part in any decision-making, as it negotiates a withdrawal agreement and the terms of its relationship with the now 27 nation bloc.

What happens to UK citizens working in the EU?
A lot depends on the kind of deal the UK agrees with the EU after exit.

If it remains within the single market, it would almost certainly retain free movement rights, allowing UK citizens to work in the EU and vice versa.

If the government opted to impose work permit restrictions, as UKIP wants, then other countries could reciprocate, meaning Britons would have to apply for visas to work.

Will I need a visa to travel to the EU?
While there could be limitations on British nationals' ability to live and work in EU countries, it seems unlikely they would want to deter tourists. There are many countries outside the EEA that British citizens can visit for up to 90 days without needing a visa and it is possible that such arrangements could be negotiated with European countries.

What about EU nationals who want to work in the UK?
Again, it depends on whether the UK government decides to introduce a work permit system of the kind that currently applies to non-EU citizens, limiting entry to skilled workers in professions where there are shortages.

Citizens' Advice has reminded people their rights have not changed yet and asked anyone to contact them if they think they have been discriminated against following the Leave vote.

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Will I still be able to use my passport?
Yes. It is a British document - there is no such thing as an EU passport, so your passport will stay the same. In theory, the government could, if it wanted, decide to change the colour, which is currently standardised for EU countries, says the BBC's Europe correspondent, Chris Morris.

Some say we could still remain in the single market - but what is a single market?
The single market is seen by its advocates as the EU's biggest achievement and one of the main reasons it was set up in the first place.

Britain was a member of a free trade area in Europe before it joined what was then known as the common market. In a free trade area countries can trade with each other without paying tariffs - but it is not a single market because the member states do not have to merge their economies together.

The European Union single market, which was completed in 1992, allows the free movement of goods, services, money and people within the European Union, as if it was a single country.

It is possible to set up a business or take a job anywhere within it. The idea was to boost trade, create jobs and lower prices. But it requires common law-making to ensure products are made to the same technical standards and imposes other rules to ensure a "level playing field".

Critics say it generates too many petty regulations and robs members of control over their own affairs. Mass migration from poorer to richer countries has also raised questions about the free movement rule. Read more: A free trade area v EU single market

Has any other member state ever left the EU?
No nation state has ever left the EU. But Greenland, one of Denmark's overseas territories, held a referendum in 1982, after gaining a greater degree of self government, and voted by 52% to 48% to leave, which it duly did after a period of negotiation. The BBC's Carolyn Quinn visited Greenland at the end of last year to find out how they did it.

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Image captionNicola Sturgeon says a new independence referendum in Scotland is likely
What does this mean for Scotland?
Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said in the wake of the Leave result that it is "democratically unacceptable" that Scotland faces being taken out of the EU when it voted to Remain.

A second independence referendum for the country is now "highly likely", she has said.

What does it mean for Northern Ireland?
Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness said the impact in Northern Ireland would be "very profound" and that the whole island of Ireland should now be able to vote on reunification.

But Northern Ireland Secretary Theresa Villiers has ruled out the call from Sinn Féin for a border poll, saying the circumstances in which one would be called did not exist.

What will happen to the Conservative leadership?
David Cameron has said a new prime minister should be in place by the beginning of the Conservative party conference on 2 October.

Nominations for a replacement leader will come from Conservative members of the House of Commons.

If one nomination is received, the new leader is declared elected. If two nominations are made, both names go forward for the members of the party across the UK to vote on by post.

In the event that three or more MPs are nominated for leader, a ballot of Conservative MPs is held "on the Tuesday immediately following the closing date for nominations".

How will pensions, savings, investments and mortgages be affected?
During the referendum campaign, the prime minister said the so-called "triple lock" for state pensions would be threatened by a UK exit. This is the agreement by which pensions increase by at least the level of earnings, inflation or 2.5% every year - whichever is the highest.

If economic performance deteriorates, the Bank of England could decide on a further programme of quantitative easing, as an alternative to cutting interest rates, which would lower bond yields and with them annuity rates. So anyone taking out a pension annuity could get less income for their money.

The Bank of England may consider raising interest rates to combat extra pressure on inflation. That would make mortgages and loans more expensive to repay but would be good news for savers.

The Treasury previously forecast a rise of between 0.7% and 1.1% in mortgage borrowing costs, with the prime minister claiming the average cost of a mortgage could increase by up to £1,000 a year.

The Treasury argued during the referendum campaign that UK shares would become less attractive to foreign investors in the event of Brexit and would therefore decline in value, but in the longer term shares typically rise with company profits. Big exporters might benefit from the weaker pound, so the value of their shares might well rise, while importers might see profits squeezed.

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Will duty-free sales on Europe journeys return?
Journalists and writers on social media have greeted the reintroduction of duty-free sales as an "upside" or "silver lining" of Brexit.

As with most Brexit consequences, whether this will happen depends on how negotiations with the EU play out - whether the "customs union" agreement between Britain and the EU is ended or continued.

Eurotunnel boss Jacques Gounon said last November the reintroduction of duty-free would be "an incredible boost for my business" but he later said that remark had been "light-hearted".

Erik Juul-Mortensen, president of the Tax Free World Association (TFWA) said after the referendum vote "it is not possible to predict how Brexit will affect the duty free and travel retail industry, and it is wiser not to make assumptions about exactly what the impact will be."

Will our EHIC cards still be valid?
No-one knows for definite. The EHIC card - which entitles travellers to state-provided medical help for any condition or injury that requires urgent treatment, in any other country within the EU, as well as several non-EU countries - is not an EU initiative. It was negotiated between countries within a group known as the European Economic Area, often simply referred to as the single market (plus Switzerland, which confusingly is not a member of the EEA, but has agreed access to the single market). Therefore, the future of Britons' EHIC cover could depend on whether the UK decided to sever ties with the EEA.

Will cars need new number plates?
Probably not, says BBC Europe correspondent Chris Morris, because there's no EU-wide law on vehicle registration or car number places, and the EU flag symbol is a voluntary identifier and not compulsory. The DVLA says there has been no discussion about what would happen to plates with the flag if the UK voted to leave.

Could MPs block an EU exit?
Could the necessary legislation pass the Commons, given that a lot of MPs - all SNP and Lib Dems, nearly all Labour and many Conservatives - were in favour of staying?

The referendum result is not legally binding - Parliament still has to pass the laws that will get Britain out of the 28 nation bloc, starting with the repeal of the 1972 European Communities Act.

The withdrawal agreement also has to be ratified by Parliament - the House of Lords and/or the Commons could vote against ratification, according to a House of Commons library report.

In practice, Conservative MPs who voted to remain in the EU would be whipped to vote with the government. Any who defied the whip would have to face the wrath of voters at the next general election.

One scenario that could see the referendum result overturned, is if MPs forced a general election and a party campaigned on a promise to keep Britain in the EU, got elected and then claimed that the election mandate topped the referendum one.

Two-thirds of MPs would have to vote for a general election to be held before the next scheduled one in 2020.

Will leaving the EU mean we don't have to abide by the European Court of Human Rights?
The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) in Strasbourg is not a European Union institution.

It was set up by the Council of Europe, which has 47 members including Russia and Ukraine. So quitting the EU will not exempt the UK from its decisions.

However, the UK government is committed to repealing the Human Rights Act which requires UK courts to treat the ECHR as setting legal precedents for the UK, in favour of a British Bill of Rights.

As part of that, David Cameron is expected to announce measures that will boost the powers of courts in England and Wales to over-rule judgements handed down by the ECHR.

However, the EU has its own European Court of Justice, whose decisions are binding on EU institutions and member states.

Its rulings have sometimes caused controversy in Britain and supporters of a Brexit have called for immediate legislation to curb its powers.

Will the UK be able to rejoin the EU in the future?
BBC Europe editor Katya Adler says the UK would have to start from scratch with no rebate, and enter accession talks with the EU.

Every member state would have to agree to the UK re-joining. But she says with elections looming elsewhere in Europe, other leaders might not be generous towards any UK demands.

New members are required to adopt the euro as their currency, once they meet the relevant criteria, although the UK could try to negotiate an opt-out.

 

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UK podría perfectamente quedarse como Noruega que forma parte del Área Económica Europea, que la integra en el mercado común comunitario, además de formar parte del espacio Schengen de libre circulación.

Sí, lo que pasa es que, a nivel político interno, los Tories del brexit no pueden defender un espacio Schengen porque precisamente han basado la campaña en cerrar fronteras a la inmigración

 

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La UE mira a España tras el 'brexit': ¿populismo y referéndum en Cataluña?

La victoria eurófoba en Reino Unido convierte a nuestras elecciones en otro test de estrés para Bruselas.

Iglesias, en la Complutense. Sergio Barrenechea Efe

ANA ROMERO @AnaRomeroGalan
25.06.2016 01:51 h.

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Este histórico 24 de junio ha sido comparado con el 11-S por su impacto en las bolsas y con la caída del Muro de Berlín por sus implicaciones políticas. La referencia más clara de que algo inmenso ha ocurrido este viernes es que la libra- la hasta ahora sólida sterling- no había alcanzado un valor tan bajo respecto al dólar desde 1985. Un país dividido, un proyecto europeo tocado. Las fuerzas euroescépticas han ganado y Nigel Farage, el líder del UKIP, se ha convertido en su rey al proclamar una doble victoria contra el gran dinero y contra la gran política (big business & big money).

¿Tendrá algún efecto este terremoto en las elecciones generales de España? En una jornada frenética de declaraciones y decisiones, políticos y diplomáticos se muestran prudentes: es muy difícil determinar cómo afectará un acontecimiento así el voto del domingo, pero están de acuerdo en que el brexit se ha colado por sorpresa en el 26-J.

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También, en que España se ha convertido en el anfiteatro electoral de Europa: nuestras elecciones generales serán interpretadas como un test de estrés sobre la deriva del populismo mundial. Podemos, que según todas las encuestas será la segunda fuerza política este domingo, se presenta con un programa poco complaciente con el cumplimiento del déficit y el compromiso de celebrar un referéndum de independencia en Cataluña.

TRUMP, EN EL REINO UNIDO
El termómetro español medirá la fuerza de la fibre trumpista que 1,3 millones de personas han desatado en el Reino Unido. Ironías de la vida, Donald Trump estaba en las islas británicas inaugurando un campo de golf cuando se conocieron los resultados. Su reacción: “La gente ha recuperado su país de las élites europeas”. El primer tuit de Alberto Garzón (Unidos Podemos) ha sido su eco en España: “El referéndum del 'brexit' no es el problema, sino el síntoma. El síntoma de una UE para los mercaderes y construida contra los pueblos”.

Los tres escenarios que podrían darse tras el brexit en España. Bruselas los analiza ya con lupa.

1. EL PP, EL GRAN BENEFICIADO.
La victoria del miedo. La seguridad frente a la incertidumbre. El refranero español lo contempla asi: más vale malo conocido que bueno por conocer. Lo han intuido, desde primera hora de la mañana, los responsables del PP. Y se han puesto en acción. El presidente en funciones, Mariano Rajoy, ha advertido antes de su declaración institucional en La Moncloa de que iba a “leer un comunicado del Gobierno” y ha jugado con el subconsciente de los españoles al recalcar la idea de que “ahora” la situación económica de España es lo suficientemente fuerte como para enfrentarse con serenidad a esta convulsión. Gracias al trabajo del PP estos últimos cuatro años.

En la misma línea ha ido María Dolores de Cospedal, la secretaria general del PP, que ha comparecido temprano en la televisión pública. Desde el palco de los Desayunos de TVE, Cospedal ha llamado directamente al “voto útil” y ha hecho una clara alusión al bolsillo: “El dinero es miedoso”. De la misma forma que los inversores se están refugiando en el oro y en el dólar, los votantes podrían optar por ponerse al socaire del PP, un par de manos seguras frente a los peligrosos vientos del exterior.

2. LA EXPLOSIÓN DEL POPULISMO
Se ajusta a otro dicho español: de perdidos, al río. Miriam González, la mujer de Nick Clegg, lo adelantó en su entrevista en EL ESPAÑOL. En un mundo en el que las reglas establecidas saltan por los aires, la reacción podría ir en el sentido de cambiarlo todo. Si lo establecido no funciona, ¿por qué no cambiarlo radicalmente? Si esta situación la han provocado los viejos políticos y los conservadores, ¿por qué no cambiar drásticamente las reglas del juego?

En su cuenta de Twitter, lo ha escrito así Pablo Iglesias: “Día triste para Europa. Debemos cambiar el rumbo. De una Europa justa y solidaria nadie querría irse. Tenemos que cambiar Europa”.

Este salto al vacío podría beneficiar a Unidos Podemos, en cuyo programa -La sonrisa de un país- aboga por el fin del austericidio, reférendums de autodeterminación en Cataluña y otras comunidades y por democratizar las instituciones de la Unión Europea. En ese sentido va otra declaración de Farage: “Ha sido una victoria de la gente corriente”.

Los británicos han votado contra los bancos, contra el big money, contra los burócratas de Bruselas que, sin ser elegidos en las urnas, toman decisiones que afectan a todos los ciudadanos. Este mensaje populista extrapolado a España daría su apoyo a Unidos Podemos.

3. UNA TERCERA VÍA QUE AYUDE A FORMAR GOBIERNO
Un tercer refrán se ajusta a este línea: no hay mal que por bien no venga. Albert Rivera lo ha descrito así: “No al tremendismo, sí a la reforma”. Desde el punto de vista del líder de Ciudadanos, que quiere quitarle a Rajoy la ventaja del miedo, “lo que ha pasado en el Reino Unido con los conservadores no es para sacar mucho pecho”.

Se trata de convencer a los españoles a que den la espalda al inmovilismo que representa Rajoy y al populismo de Iglesias. Una Tercera Vía que se asemeja a lo declarado por Pedro Sánchez. Ambos han destacado la oportunidad que supone para Europa poder unirse más tras el divorcio del Reino Unido. Está por ver si esta idea de la “esperanza frente al miedo” de C's y del PSOE atraerá más votantes. Para algunos, el partido que lidera Sánchez pertenece a esa vieja política que ha sido derrotada en el Reino Unido.

Sí puede beneficiar al socialcentrismo de C's y del PSOE la presión por formar un nuevo gobierno tras el 26-J. Ahora más que nunca urge que en Madrid haya un Ejecutivo que represente a España en las negociaciones de Londres para salir de la UE.

Sí hay unanimidad entre los consultados sobre el hecho de que Europa estará presente en las nuevas negociaciones entre los 4 partidos. Por ejemplo, para enfrentarse a la cuestión de Gibraltar, que ya ha salido a la palestra hoy de la mano de José Manuel García-Margallo: “La bandera de España está más cerca de izarse en el Peñón”.