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Padres toxicos, el padre de Meghan Markle, el que decia que ahora es "daddy time", el que no para de insultar a su hija y de contar mentiras contra ella y su marido, el que dice que ira a juicio contra su hija. Si el padre de Meghan Markle es lo que llamamos basura. Y no lo digo con ligereza, porque los seres humanos en mi libro son todos hijos de dios. Pero luego hay unos cuantos, que merecen el epiteto, y esto es uno. Intenta destruir a su hija. Este tio es basura toxica.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/megha...-patron-saint-of-daughters-with-toxic-fathers


DAILY BEAST

Meghan Markle: The Unofficial Patron Saint of Daughters With Toxic Fathers

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Daughters dealing with difficult fathers are connecting online and cheering Meghan Markle on, as her father Thomas Markle uses interviews to try to emotionally blackmail her.

Mandy Velez
Assistant Managing Editor

Published Feb. 04, 2020 4:42AM ET
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OPINION
Photo Illustration by Kristen Hazzard/The Daily Beast

Thomas Markle was recently on the British television show Good Morning Britain, complaining about his favorite subject, estranged daughter Meghan, and how unfairly treated by her and Prince Harry he feels.
“You do acknowledge that doing interviews will not make it easier?” anchor Susanna Reid asked Markle.

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“There is no other way to reach them,” he responded, the “them” being his daughter who does not want to talk to him and his son-in-law. In other words, she’s “no contact,” which means quite literally no longer making contact or accepting contact with a loved one. It’s a move that is well-known in the world of toxic relationships.
Not many people understand why a child would cut a parent off, least of all, it seems, Piers Morgan, Reid’s co-presenter and Meghan Markle’s U.K. media agitator-in-chief. Glazing over his colleague’s questioning, he chimed in and attempted to garner empathy for Markle, asserting that Meghan and Harry cut Thomas off for missing the wedding because “they just didn’t believe your health problems were so bad you couldn’t fly.”
This weekend, Sun Online reported that Meghan and Harry don’t want Meghan’s mom, Doria Ragland, to become Thomas’ “pawn” after he revealed he had written to Doria to ask if she could help reconnect him with Meghan.
What a mess—and a triggering mess for me and many other women.
After the Good Morning Britain interview, I immediately logged onto Facebook and made my way to the group I’m in for daughters of narcissistic or toxic fathers. It’s a place of refuge when I’m feeling uneasy or tasked with dealing with my own father’s hurtful behavior.
It’s a place where thousands of women or women-identifying people from around the world, from teenaged to middle-aged and older, can openly ask for advice or just vent about the troubled relationships they have with their parent. Other members lend their support or advice in the comments, which can range from heart emojis to YouTube videos and educational articles. When I got there, there was already a thread about Markle’s comments. The comments ranged from rage to disgust to hurt for Meghan.

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I do not know the reality of the situation between Thomas and Meghan, I admit that—but in how he has treated Meghan publicly I feel a strong personal echo of what it is to be a child targeted in such a way by their parent. I am far from alone.
Markle’s attacks against his daughter have gone on for a while, at least publicly since he pulled out of her 2018 wedding to Prince Harry. And, lately, it seems they’ve been a lot more frequent. In the same week he spoke with Piers Morgan—adding that he did not believe she was subject to racism as a royal in the media—he accused his daughter of “cheapening” the royal family and a week later threatened her with weekly interviews until she loved him again. The group has followed it all.
We’re familiar with the tactics of our abusive fathers that mimic Markle’s, whether we are in contact with them or not. We know the feeling of having someone who is supposed to love you the most respect your boundaries the least, and use emotionally manipulative tactics as Markle has (like when he says he misses his grandchild or asks for money) to get you to have a relationship with them again.
We have been lied to, gaslit, trash-talked, and guilt-tripped by either the toxic parent or by those around us who just don’t get it. Like Meghan, many of us have been told we’re the wrong ones for protecting ourselves or to just get over the pain they may have caused us, because they love us, and isn’t that enough? We are asked: why are we trying to hurt them? And if that doesn’t make us come “back,” we will be sure to regret it. And also, if we don’t, they may die—and their death will be our fault.


“He’s making very public what should be a private conversation. At the end of the day, when boundaries are being violated, it can definitely qualify as abusive. It’s a bad lesson on how to be a parent”
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Dr. Ramani Durvasula, a clinical psychologist and author of works about toxic behavior including Should I Stay or Should I Go?: Surviving a Relationship With a Narcissist, told The Daily Beast that while she can’t diagnose Markle without knowing him, his actions line up with attributes of toxic behavior.
“He’s making very public what should be a private conversation,” she said. “At the end of the day, when boundaries are being violated, it can definitely qualify as abusive. It’s a bad lesson on how to be a parent.”
It is likely the reason that myself, and others in the group, feel the pain so deeply as we watch this all play out. It’s like we’re watching our own lives on a much larger scale. The same week I watched the Piers Morgan interview, my own dad texted me from a fourth new number in an attempt to reach me, despite me asking him for some space.
I’m not the only one. One woman from the group echoed what many replied in the comments of stories on the Markles: that he reminds her of her own father.
“I get anxious when reading or hearing the degrading things he says about Meghan and Harry. It’s all too familiar,” she told The Daily Beast. She explained her own father behaves in ways that are degrading or disrespectful of boundaries, and allegedly threatens her when things don’t go his way.
Another says her experiences make her empathetic toward Meghan: “I understand how hard it is to deal with a situation like this. I grew up with a man just like him.”
The Markle relationship is one that triggers us, but also helps us feel seen. Daughters of fathers with narcissistic traits struggle with issues like anxiety and depression at a rate higher than our peers without a toxic parent in the picture, due to both the abuse and the silence that comes from the shame associated with the subject.
Dr. Stephanie Kriesberg, Pys. D., who has experience studying and counseling victims of narcissistic parent and child relationships, called the daughters who carry this burden “a secret society.”
“[Toxic fathers] can look very different in public than they do in private. Plus, our society doesn’t endorse the idea that we can be critical of our parents,” said Dr. Kriesberg. She didn’t want to comment on Meghan, specifically, but made a broader point: “Society doesn’t expect a woman who says, ‘I’m not inviting my father to my wedding.’”
The result? Daughters of toxic fathers like me grasp at any chance to feel like someone gets it. The situation between Meghan and her dad has triggered us, but at the same time, made us feel so much less alone. Though all fathers who exhibit narcissistic or toxic traits have different styles of abuse—from the silent treatment to threats—Dr. Kriesberg says the common thread among their daughters is rejection. And those of us who experience it find healing and validation in each other, and though she may not know it, Meghan.
A week ago, in a Meghan Markle thread, everything came to a head when a group member officially dubbed her our patron saint: The Patron Saint of Daughters of Toxic Men.
The more Markle chooses to speak ill of his daughter, the more I empathize with her. This, in turn, helps me empathize with myself. The toxicity in the language Markle uses toward his daughter has made me see that abusive family dynamics, whether they stem from mental illness or not, does not discriminate. It’s not the fault of the victim of such abuse in parent-child situations; it’s simply the luck of the draw. Sometimes, the person who draws such a card is a princess.
Meghan is not perfect and neither am I. No human being is. There may well be some very valid criticism of her behavior, of how she and Harry have managed their royal lives, and how they have exited from their royal duties.


“We want to feel our experiences and our choices to protect ourselves are valid. Without saying a word, Meghan gives us that”
But watching her face the onslaught of slights from her father is painful for those of us tied to this special kind of parental emotional abuse, who are desperate to find others who understand. We want to feel our experiences and our choices to protect ourselves are valid. Without saying a word, Meghan gives us that.
She didn’t choose to be a very public image of what family toxicity looks like and I’m not 100 percent sure that is how she views the situation—Lord knows she already wants to shed elements of the royal role she has.
But as long as her father lashes out, I will continue to cheer Meghan Markle on, as will many other daughters. With her as an example, we will grow the strength to deal with our own fathers and whatever fallout that decision may bring. We will discuss the interviews that trigger us and relate to the behaviors we find familiar. And, for once, we will not feel alone.
 
Cuando no haya suficiente dinero, Meghan saldrá corriendo buscando a un billonario que la retire con todos los lujos...
La starlet sin título no es nadie y ya está mayorcita para semejantes lances...Si "cazar" a un millonario fuera tan "fácil", no se habría metido en FR...Menudo "avispero" y ella lo sabía bien cuando les hizo la "pelota" para casarse con el "cortito" de petas...Ahora lo que busca es vivir como royal millonaria pero sin que la controlen...
 
Acabo de googlear a Jason Mamoa y no me gusta nada . Me parece mil veces mas atractivo Wills. A mi incluso que no intente disimular su calvicie me gusta, denota personalidad. Vivimos en un mundo tan superficial que me gusta que alguien con el dinero y la posición de William se acepte tal y como es. A mi eso me parece atractivo en este mundo de viceversos.

En México se le dice mamado, o mamao a los fortachones y musculos ?


Con Momoa hay mucho prejuicio

Es el arquetipo de lo que la gente piensa de "muchos músculos pocos cerebro". Pero lo cierto es que empezó biología marina y se graduó finalmente en biología silvestre en la Universidad Estatal. De tonto nada. De hecho yo lo que le veo es limitado como actor pero ya. Pero era el típico hippie naturalista que se metió a modelo porque le ficharon en la universidad


No es mi tipo pero no es alguien que solo sea músculos como se piensa. Además de tener pareja y familia y ser una de las personas más sanas en tofos los sentidos. De los que se la pasan con los niños en la playa.

Pero parece que lo toman por un tonto sin cerebro cuando es de los actores más sensatos y con cabeza del mundo holiwodense.


Lo que es un tío enoorme. Y no solo por la altura, anda por el 1,95 sino que es grande y le cuesta mantener el peso que se desparrama. Puede pesar más de 130 kilos a la que se descuida (sin grasa extra solo en músculos hoy día ya anda por los 110) y es el clásico hombre que sin cuidados sería un armario empotrado XXXXL en todas direcciones. Debe comer lo que no está escrito pero es su estructura

Eso sí ya quisiera Harry tener un poco del cerebro de Momoa, que es alguien muy familiar con su pareja, y sus hijos, que tiene sus estudios sin copiar exámenes y como persona el chico perfecto para cualquier mujer que aprecie unos valores (y tenga espacio en la casa y tres neveras pero creo que eso no el culpa suya)
 
Hace unos días en un programa de entretenimiento americano comparaban a Meghan con Grace Kelly. No le veo más puntos en común que ser actrices y americanas, porque Grace Kelly tenía una carrera bastante cimentada en Hollywood .Antes de ser Princesa, ya había ganado un Óscar, trabajado con directores como Alfred Hitchcock. Y no salió corriendo del Principado de Mónaco al año de casada con Rainiero.
 
Frivolidad? Senor mio si todo esto que leo es de lo mas frivolo, y yo no le daria ni un momento de mi tiempo vital si no fuera por lo brutal que lo encuentro, brutalidad que no debe quedar sin contestacion. Tengo que decir en voz alta que me parece brutal lo que se exprime aqui, brutal, no obstante las protestaciones que hacen lagrimar momentos subtitulados de Ellen con gente buena y generosa, y promesas que uno, no como Meghan Markle, uno daria todo sus ganancias a la beneficiencia, si estuviera donde estan ellos, cosa que no se lo cree nadie, ni te lo crees tu.

Harry vivio lo peor, y todo el mundo lo sabe, y ahi seria la oportunidad de demostrar humanidad, pero ahi van con irrision, burlas, insultos, groserias. Donde esta la humanidad en todo esto? Donde esta la generosidad de la joven en el show de Ellen?

Harry perdio a su madre, --y todos sabemos muy bien como la perdio y porque- -sin poder hacer nada contra el sistema familiar que la mato, una familia que tenia a Harry bajo control, sin poder exprimir lo que pensaba y sentia sobre la muerte de su madre, ni sobre la actuacion de su padre, ni comentario alguno sobre la bruja total de Camilla (que me parece que a a ciertos les cae requete bien, sera que encantan las que rompan familias, es una verguenza que alguien vaya elogiando a esta mujer). CON RAZON Harry fue rebelde, y leo que caen mal los rebeldes, no me sorprende en absoluto, por lo que esta aqui escrito, todos tienen que estar bien controladitos para que algunos esten contenta con la situacion, son las personas menos libres las que buscan que los demas esten enjaulados, pero bueno bueno, noticias, hay gente que no se deja controlar, o gente como Harry, que por fin logra escaparse.

Tambien debo decir que si uno quiere hacer algo que valga la pena en la vida y quiere dejar de intentar destruir a personas desconocidas, no tiene mas que hacer que salir a la calle, que en cada ciudad hay milles de personas que necesitan que se trabaje a su favor. Yo tengo bastantes anos de formacion universitaria, titulo de abogado, podria ponerme a intentar ganar mucho dinero, pero escojo trabajar para la gente de mi ciudad mas necesitada, gente con problemas de salud mental, gente que les han echado de sus pisos, gente que lleva mucho tiempo sin techo. Escojo hacerme mas pequeno, ganando menos, gastando menos, para ayudar a que tengan piso, comida en la mesa, defensa legal, etc. Esto es lo que quieren decir Harry y Meghan, esto es lo que predican, por una sociedad menos brutal, mas generosa. Son buena gente, y es una verguenza el tratamiento brutal recibido.

Alguien que es buena gente no chantajea a su abuela y su padre que son quienes lo mantienen, con sacar los trapos sucios si no les cumplen el capricho

alguien buena gente no va haciendo dinero explotando la muerte de su madre

alguien buena gente no aparta a su marido de su familia y amigos ni lo manipula

akguien buena gente si ve que su pareja está enfermo mental procura ayuda y le proporciona estabilidad

alguien buena gente no va lloriqueandoporque no le preguntan si está okni dice que no se puede levantar de la cama por lo que pasa en el mundo cuando estáen medio de la verdadera miseria y dolor de gente que realmente no tiene absolutamente nada

alguien buena gente no le amarga la vida a sus ancianos abuelos, uno casi en la tumba, que lo cuidaron y protegieron cuando murió su madre

alguien buena gente, no traiciona a su único hermano ni difunde rumores de infidelidad para cargarse su matrimonio
 
Padre e hija son de la misma calaña, el padre hace a la hija lo que esta y su ¿cuarto o quinto? Marido están haciendo con la FR
Así es. Aunque en mi opinión, la reacción del padre estaría hasta justificada, este hombre parece que, siguiendo el dicho popular español de "desvestir a un santo pa vestir a otro", benefició a su hija menor, la MeAgain, por encima y en detrimento de sus otros hijos, normal que ahora que por fin la churumbela ha dado un "bragazo", ojo, que no triunfado en su profesión, (una lástima que la "actuación de su vida" la que representa desde que pescó al resentido Petas no pueda nominar a Oscar :sneaky:) , el hombre esperase que la que fue la niña de sus ojos se hiciera cargo de él, en su senectud tal y como según él le prometió, quién sabe si mientras le pedía la "paguita" pa sufragar sus gastos.
Viendo el paño de la tipa esta, me cuadra perfectamente, es una garrapata.
Y él, El Petas, es lo que es, un frívolo amoral manipulador que, con todo el cinismo, no duda en apropiarse y vender como carnaza disfrazada de trauma, la muerte de su madre treinta años después.
Ascazo me da el "Colorado".
 
¡¡Pero quién les compra la "moto gripá" a este par de jetas!!
Debe ser cosa de la llamada "postverdad", en mi román paladino, envolver una gran mentira con un bonito papel y un llamativo lazo.
 
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