Muere Fidel Castro a los 90 años (25 de Noviembre)

No, hace 38 años se votó: "¿Aprueba ud. el proyecto de constitución" Si/No. No se votó: ¿Qué tipo de jefatura de estado prefiere ud.? Monarquía/República.

perdon, pero se votó el proyecto de constitución que decía que la forma de estado es una MONARQUIA PARLAMENTARIA!!

por cierto, y hablando del tema que nos ocupa, es decir, cuba, allí cuando dices que votaron (elecciones libres claro) los cubanos a castro como jefe del estado?
 
que hubo 2 detenidos en sol por resistencia a la autoridad y uno en gran vía por saltarse la valla de protección, poco mas, ahh si hubo una manifestacion con unas 500 personas a favor de la republica...
La policía impedirá exhibir banderas republicanas durante el desfile
La Policía requisará símbolos a favor de la República al paso de los Reyes por "seguridad"
El TSJM respalda la suspensión de la manifestación convocada en Madrid

http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2014/06/18/actualidad/1403101903_123341.html
 
La policía impedirá exhibir banderas republicanas durante el desfile
La Policía requisará símbolos a favor de la República al paso de los Reyes por "seguridad"
El TSJM respalda la suspensión de la manifestación convocada en Madrid

http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2014/06/18/actualidad/1403101903_123341.html

te has leido la noticia?

El riesgo potencial que puede suponer la exhibición de banderas o símbolos republicanos y una concentración reivindicando la República es suficiente, según la policía y el Tribunal Superior de Justicia de Madrid, para impedirlos. El riesgo “real” y “cierto” de que se produzcan hoy altercados durante la proclamación de Felipe VI prevalece sobre las libertades de reunión y expresión, según el tribunal, que ha prohibido la manifestación Reivindicar la república ante la proclamación del nuevo Rey, convocada para este mediodía.


En el caso de la policía, los agentes impedirán exhibir banderas u otros símbolos republicanos en el recorrido que realizarán el nuevo rey Felipe VI y su esposa por el centro de Madrid y sus alrededores. El argumento es que puede suponer una provocación hacia las personas que sigan el desfile.

Además, los agentes tomarán nota de los inmuebles en los que se cuelguen enseñas tricolores en los balcones e intentar dilucidar, posteriormente, si la intención del propietario del inmueble con esa exhibición era provocar a los asistentes a los actos de proclamación del nuevo rey.

La decisión se basa en un informe elaborado por los servicios jurídicos de la policía que se apoya en la llamada ley Corcuera y en la ley reguladora del derecho de manifestación, según fuentes policiales. Eso sí, “en ningún caso se detendrá a nadie por el simple hecho de enarbolar una bandera republicana, excepto si provoca altercados, desobedece a los agentes o se resiste a estos”, según un mando del Cuerpo Nacional de Policía. Aun así, los agentes tienen orden de requisar cualquier símbolo de este tipo, alegando motivos de seguridad. No obstante, fuentes de la dirección general aseguraron que no existe ninguna instrucción sino que, únicamente, se pretende “garantizar el orden público y evitar actitudes de confrontación”. Las mismas fuentes admitieron, aun así, que si los agentes observan alguna bandera en el recorrido que pueda alterar el ánimo de los asistentes, se les pedirá a sus portadores “que la guarden”.


es el mismo principio por el que la policía escolta a los ultras de un equipo hasta el estadio y les mete mucho antes de que se junten con otra afición, para que no haya altercados, peleas, etc

según tú tambien se les coharta su derecho a la libertad de expresión, no?
 
por cierto para tu información, todos los jueves en sol hay manifa a favor de la república, pasate un día y ves las aglomeraciones!!

y eso que yo no soy muy monarquica, pero viendo el odio que le tienen algunos, al final me he convencido de que son un mal menor
 
no hay mas preguntas señoría!!

jeje está claro que a algunos les hode de sobremanera que en Cuba haya un campo de internamiento donde se practica la tortura y que ese campo no sea responsabilidad del sanguinario Castro sino de Obama, el premio Nobel de la paz, campeón de la libertad, la democracia y los DDHH.

Por mucho que repitas una mentira cobesa, ésta no se va a convertir en realidad. La realidad es que en Cuba no hay tortura fuera de Guantánamo.

Inside Guantanamo Bay: Horrifying pictures show the restraint chairs, feeding tubes and operating theatre used on inmates in terror prison
  • Dubbed the most expensive prison on Earth, the facility has 166 inmates currently in custody
    • Around 104 prisoners have been on hunger strike since February - they are being force-fed
    • If they refuse to eat, a tube is inserted through their nose into their stomach while being restrained
    • Force-feeding is a term that is banned - it is called 'enteral feeding' at the facility in Cuba
    • Many of the inmates have been there more than a decade, most without charge
By Tom Leonard

Published: 13:50 GMT, 27 June 2013 | Updated: 14:53 GMT, 28 June 2013

It might not look out of place in a private gym – but for the various straps to keep the occupant in place and the hospital drip stand looming ominously behind.

Pictured is the notorious restraint chair at Guantanamo Bay, where former inmates claim they were subjected to long hours of agonising forced feeding.

The US military is still using the chair to cope with a hunger strike by 104 of the 166 prisoners which has lasted more than three months.

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Force-fed: The restraint chair used to force-feed detainees on hunger strike at the detainee hospital in Camp Delta which is part of the U.S. military prison for 'enemy combatants' in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba


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Strike: A military doctor holds a feeding tube used to feed detainees - a hunger strike which started with a handful of prisoners, has now become a mass protest with 104 detainees taking part.

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Legal black hole: The detainee hospital's operating room - Guantanamo, a US military base in Cuba, has previously been criticized as being a legal black hole where inmates have fewer rights than those who are held on mainland US soil

Each day, up to 40 of them are strapped down and kept alive with a liquid nutrient mix fed through a nasal tube.

Medical experts have described the practice as unethical and dangerous, and even Barack Obama has condemned it, saying in his national security address: ‘Is this who we are? Is this something that our Founders foresaw
But officials insist ‘enteral feeding’ is considered safe and its use has been upheld by the courts.

Under the procedure, an inmate who refuses nine successive meals or whose body weight drops significantly is offered a twice-daily can of a nutritional supplement, Ensure, whose flavours include butter pecan. If he refuses, guards shackle him into the chair by his arms, head and feet, and a nurse inserts the tube up his nose, down the back of his throat and into his stomach.

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Necessity: The feeding tube and other items used in the forced feeding of detainees - the images provide an insight into the conditions that hundreds of detainees have been kept in since the facility opened in 2001


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The restraint chair used to force-feed detainees"

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Up to 44 are strapped down each day and force-fed liquid nutrients through a nasal tube. 'We do it to preserve life,' Navy Capt. Robert Durand. said, denying the assertions from prisoners that the procedure is painfuPick a face: A chart used at the detainee hospital for patients to indicate their pain level

Most prisoners are taken to designated ‘feeding cells’ but a few are fed at the Cuban base’s detainee hospital, where these photographs were taken. They are asked to point to one of six happy or sad faces on a card to indicate their discomfort level.

Samir Naji al Hasan Moqbel, a Yemeni who has been on hunger strike since February after 11 years at Guantanamo, recently described how he wanted to vomit when the feeding tube was first stuck up his nose. ‘There was agony in my chest, throat and stomach,’ he said.

Ahmed Zuhair, a 47-year-old former inmate, recently described how four years of being regularly strapped to what he dubbed the ‘torture chair’ had damaged his back and nasal passages.


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Brick wall: Calls for the doctors who force-feed hunger striking prisoners at Guantanamo Bay to refuse to perform the practice on ethical grounds have gotten no traction, a spokesman for the prison said earlier this month

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Checks: A U.S. Army Military Police officers check in on detainees during morning prayer at Camp V. Camp V and VI, are where most of the detainees are held. There is also a third, top secret detention facility called Camp VII or Camp Platinum where 'high-value detainees', including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, are kept

Zuhair, a Saudi former sheep trader who was never charged with any crime during a seven-year stretch at Guantanamo which ended in 2009, said his nose would bleed during each force-feeding. He claims he would be forced roughly into the chair and left there much longer than the official two-hour maximum. ‘The pain from each force-feeding is so excruciating that I am unable to sleep at night because of the pain in my throat,’ he said in a sworn statement.

US military officials have acknowledged a ‘forced cell extraction team’ was repeatedly used to move Zuhair when he refused to walk on his own to where hunger striking detainees were fed.

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Secure: Razor wire is seen on the fence around Camp Delta. Many of the inmates have been there more than a decade, most without charge

A military spokesman said the feeding tubes are lubricated and prisoners are offered anaesthetic to prevent long-lasting damage.

‘We think there are adequate safeguards in place to make it as pain-free and comfortable as possible. It’s not done to inflict pain and it’s not done as punishment. It’s done to preserve life.’ The pictures were taken by the Getty agency after it was granted a request to visit the base. Its photographer was not allowed to see any patients.

Three doctors writing this month in the New England Journal of Medicine called Guantanamo a ‘medical ethics-free zone’ and urged doctors there to speak out. ‘Force-feeding a competent person is not the practice of medicine; it is aggravated assault,’ they said.

In April, the American Medical Association said force-feeding detainees violated the profession’s ‘core ethical values’.

US Marine General John Kelly, who oversees Guantanamo, sparked criticism when he denied detainees were being force-fed, calling it ‘Hunger Strike Lite’.
 
jeje está claro que a algunos les hode de sobremanera que en Cuba haya un campo de internamiento donde se practica la tortura y que ese campo no sea responsabilidad del sanguinario Castro sino de Obama, el premio Nobel de la paz, campeón de la libertad, la democracia y los DDHH.

Por mucho que repitas una mentira cobesa, ésta no se va a convertir en realidad. La realidad es que en Cuba no hay tortura fuera de Guantánamo.

Inside Guantanamo Bay: Horrifying pictures show the restraint chairs, feeding tubes and operating theatre used on inmates in terror prison
  • Dubbed the most expensive prison on Earth, the facility has 166 inmates currently in custody
    • Around 104 prisoners have been on hunger strike since February - they are being force-fed
    • If they refuse to eat, a tube is inserted through their nose into their stomach while being restrained
    • Force-feeding is a term that is banned - it is called 'enteral feeding' at the facility in Cuba
    • Many of the inmates have been there more than a decade, most without charge
By Tom Leonard

Published: 13:50 GMT, 27 June 2013 | Updated: 14:53 GMT, 28 June 2013

It might not look out of place in a private gym – but for the various straps to keep the occupant in place and the hospital drip stand looming ominously behind.

Pictured is the notorious restraint chair at Guantanamo Bay, where former inmates claim they were subjected to long hours of agonising forced feeding.

The US military is still using the chair to cope with a hunger strike by 104 of the 166 prisoners which has lasted more than three months.

article-2349693-1A86F23C000005DC-866_964x569.jpg


Force-fed: The restraint chair used to force-feed detainees on hunger strike at the detainee hospital in Camp Delta which is part of the U.S. military prison for 'enemy combatants' in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba


article-2349693-1A86E6E9000005DC-304_964x646.jpg


Strike: A military doctor holds a feeding tube used to feed detainees - a hunger strike which started with a handful of prisoners, has now become a mass protest with 104 detainees taking part.

article-2349693-1A86E054000005DC-554_964x614.jpg



Legal black hole: The detainee hospital's operating room - Guantanamo, a US military base in Cuba, has previously been criticized as being a legal black hole where inmates have fewer rights than those who are held on mainland US soil

Each day, up to 40 of them are strapped down and kept alive with a liquid nutrient mix fed through a nasal tube.

Medical experts have described the practice as unethical and dangerous, and even Barack Obama has condemned it, saying in his national security address: ‘Is this who we are? Is this something that our Founders foresaw
But officials insist ‘enteral feeding’ is considered safe and its use has been upheld by the courts.

Under the procedure, an inmate who refuses nine successive meals or whose body weight drops significantly is offered a twice-daily can of a nutritional supplement, Ensure, whose flavours include butter pecan. If he refuses, guards shackle him into the chair by his arms, head and feet, and a nurse inserts the tube up his nose, down the back of his throat and into his stomach.

article-2349693-1A86FCF8000005DC-648_964x634.jpg


Necessity: The feeding tube and other items used in the forced feeding of detainees - the images provide an insight into the conditions that hundreds of detainees have been kept in since the facility opened in 2001


article-2349693-1A86ECDE000005DC-57_470x423.jpg

The restraint chair used to force-feed detainees"

article-2349693-1A86F228000005DC-304_470x423.jpg



Up to 44 are strapped down each day and force-fed liquid nutrients through a nasal tube. 'We do it to preserve life,' Navy Capt. Robert Durand. said, denying the assertions from prisoners that the procedure is painfuPick a face: A chart used at the detainee hospital for patients to indicate their pain level

Most prisoners are taken to designated ‘feeding cells’ but a few are fed at the Cuban base’s detainee hospital, where these photographs were taken. They are asked to point to one of six happy or sad faces on a card to indicate their discomfort level.

Samir Naji al Hasan Moqbel, a Yemeni who has been on hunger strike since February after 11 years at Guantanamo, recently described how he wanted to vomit when the feeding tube was first stuck up his nose. ‘There was agony in my chest, throat and stomach,’ he said.

Ahmed Zuhair, a 47-year-old former inmate, recently described how four years of being regularly strapped to what he dubbed the ‘torture chair’ had damaged his back and nasal passages.


article-2349693-1A870098000005DC-95_964x645.jpg


Brick wall: Calls for the doctors who force-feed hunger striking prisoners at Guantanamo Bay to refuse to perform the practice on ethical grounds have gotten no traction, a spokesman for the prison said earlier this month

article-2349693-1A86E798000005DC-933_964x635.jpg


Checks: A U.S. Army Military Police officers check in on detainees during morning prayer at Camp V. Camp V and VI, are where most of the detainees are held. There is also a third, top secret detention facility called Camp VII or Camp Platinum where 'high-value detainees', including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, are kept

Zuhair, a Saudi former sheep trader who was never charged with any crime during a seven-year stretch at Guantanamo which ended in 2009, said his nose would bleed during each force-feeding. He claims he would be forced roughly into the chair and left there much longer than the official two-hour maximum. ‘The pain from each force-feeding is so excruciating that I am unable to sleep at night because of the pain in my throat,’ he said in a sworn statement.

US military officials have acknowledged a ‘forced cell extraction team’ was repeatedly used to move Zuhair when he refused to walk on his own to where hunger striking detainees were fed.

article-2349693-1A86A08C000005DC-266_470x474.jpg



article-2349693-1A86D84B000005DC-100_964x623.jpg


Secure: Razor wire is seen on the fence around Camp Delta. Many of the inmates have been there more than a decade, most without charge

A military spokesman said the feeding tubes are lubricated and prisoners are offered anaesthetic to prevent long-lasting damage.

‘We think there are adequate safeguards in place to make it as pain-free and comfortable as possible. It’s not done to inflict pain and it’s not done as punishment. It’s done to preserve life.’ The pictures were taken by the Getty agency after it was granted a request to visit the base. Its photographer was not allowed to see any patients.

Three doctors writing this month in the New England Journal of Medicine called Guantanamo a ‘medical ethics-free zone’ and urged doctors there to speak out. ‘Force-feeding a competent person is not the practice of medicine; it is aggravated assault,’ they said.

In April, the American Medical Association said force-feeding detainees violated the profession’s ‘core ethical values’.

US Marine General John Kelly, who oversees Guantanamo, sparked criticism when he denied detainees were being force-fed, calling it ‘Hunger Strike Lite’.

si me encuentras un post donde yo niegue torturas en guantanamo te daré la razón

yo ya te he puesto donde tu las niegas en cuba y te han puesto hasta videos y aun así, lo sigues negando

esta conversación no tiene sentido, es un "y tú mas" en hipervole internacional

repito por ultima vez:

tu afirmas que en cuba no ha habido torturas
se te demuestra que si
sales con "y en guantanamo mas" mientras sigues negando lo de cuba
te ponen videos de testimonios de torturas
y vuelves con guantanamo

mira chata, es que estas entrando en bucle y no mañana me voy de megapuente y ya estoy un poco mareada de que le des 27 vueltas a lo mismo, asi que por mi parte se acabó la discursion
 
si me encuentras un post donde yo niegue torturas en guantanamo te daré la razón

yo ya te he puesto donde tu las niegas en cuba y te han puesto hasta videos y aun así, lo sigues negando

esta conversación no tiene sentido, es un "y tú mas" en hipervole internacional

repito por ultima vez:

tu afirmas que en cuba no ha habido torturas
se te demuestra que si
sales con "y en guantanamo mas" mientras sigues negando lo de cuba
te ponen videos de testimonios de torturas
y vuelves con guantanamo

mira chata, es que estas entrando en bucle y no mañana me voy de megapuente y ya estoy un poco mareada de que le des 27 vueltas a lo mismo, asi que por mi parte se acabó la discursion

es evidente que tienes un problema de comprensión lectora. No he dicho que en Cuba jamás haya habido tortura -de hecho el propio Castro fue brutalmente torturado en las cárceles de Batista tras el fracasado asalto al cuartel Moncada- sino que en Cuba HOY no hay tortura fuera de Guantánamo.

Repito (por enésima vez): no he negado que en las UMAP se dieran casos de tortura pero las UMAP se cerraron en 1968.

feliz puente.
 
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