Corea del Norte y sus amenazas terroríficas

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    ¡Hola! Abro un hilo, para preguntar, ¿no hay nadie más que esté preocupada por todo el asunto de Corea del Norte? Para mí que el dictador de ese país (porque es un dictador, enfrentémoslo) quiere que corra sangre y... ay, no sé, a mí me da un poco de miedo. ¿Vieron que ahora hizo un video SIMULANDO un ataque nuclear a Estados Unidos? Y los medios, como son sensacionalistas, le dan aún más tribuna de la que se merece y... no sé qué vaya a pasar. Las futuras elecciones de Estados Unidos también me tienen nerviosa, porque no sé si la siguiente autoridad va a ser tan astuta como la de ahora en cuanto a tratar el tema internacional.

    ¿Qué piensan ustedes? ¿Exagero? ¿Y qué podríamos hacer? Sí, estoy un poco ansiosa con el tema, lo siento, jejeje.

    Ni les pongo el link al video terrorífico de amenaza porque, aunque sé que existe, no quiero verlo.
     
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    Hola!!! He encontrado el hilo porque estaba yo pensando en abrir una del Paquirrin de Corea del Norte, y el país dirigido por su obesa mano.
    Vengo de ver un reportaje en Cuatro, opacos una vez más con los Periodistas. De vez en cuando he ido leyendo cosas, y cada vez que me pongo me produce tremenda curiosidad.
     
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    Es que estamos fatal a nivel mundial , yo no sé con que cabeza elegimos a quien nos representa desde Trump a Maduro pasando por el Kim Joung este o por Berlusconi en su día, recuerdo que Hitler también salió elegido por votación popular. Estamos destinados a la autodestrucción...parecemos tontos...va a ser verdad que no hay vida inteligente en ningún planeta incluyendo el nuestro.
     
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    EEUU y Corea del Norte resolverán sus tensiones
    con un duelo de baile entre Trump y Kim Jong Un

    "Hemos llegado a un acuerdo con Corea del Norte para resolver nuestras diferencias en un duelo de baile", afirman los estadounidenses
    @EL_CITADOR

    11 agosto 2017
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    Esta mañana el portavoz de la Casa Blanca ha comparecido ante los medios para explicar que la escalada de tensiones entre EEUU y Corea del Norte está muy próxima a finalizar.


    El portavoz lo explicaba con estas palabras: 'Esta madrugada hemos llegado a un acuerdo con Corea del Norte para resolver nuestras diferencias en un duelo de baile entre presidente de EEUU, el señor Trump, y el líder coreano, Kim Jong Un. Dicho duelo tendrá lugar dentro de una semana en la zona desmilitarizada que separa ambos países'.

    También ha aclarado que 'El estilo será libre. Se permitirán pasos antiguos como el Travolta o pasos más arriesgados, como el gusano sexy'. A la respuesta de si el twerking era válido, ha respondido que 'En teoría sí, pero en la práctica esperamos que ninguno de los dos lo lleve a cabo o quienes lo presencien correrán un serio riesgo de morir de asco'.

    También se ha especificado que, aunque el atuendo es libre, no sé permiten tangas, pantalones ajustados y otras prendas similares que provoquen en el espectador el deseo de sacarse los ojos con una cucharilla de café.

    El duelo de baile será retransmitido en directo para todo el mundo por la Mtv y Murcia TV. El jurado que decidirá quién se alza con el título de 'Líder del mundo y puto amo de la pista' estará compuesto por el cantante de Jamiroquai, Simon Cowell, Chiquetete y una señora de Albacete llamada Justina.
     
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    Pinball nuclear...
     
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    Como siempre la retórica queda para los bobos mientras que lo que verdaderamente esta en juego es el dinero y recursos naturales...en enormes cantidades ;)

    North Korea is sitting on trillions of dollars of untapped wealth, and its neighbors want in
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    Plenty more where this came from. (Reuters/Yuri Maltsev)
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    June 16, 2017

    Few think of North Korea as being a prosperous nation. But it is rich in one regard: mineral resources.

    Currently North Korea is alarming neighbors with its frequent missile tests, and the US with its attempts to field long-range nuclear missiles that can hit American cities. A sixth nuclear test could be imminent. An attack on the US or its allies would be suicidal, so Pyongyang probably aims to extract “aid” from the international community in exchange fordismantling some of its weaponry—rewind about 10 years to see the last time it pulled off the old “nuclear blackmail” trick.

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    No shortage of minerals. (Quartz)
    But however much North Korea could extract from other nations that way, the result would pale in comparison to the value of its largely untapped underground resources.

    Below the nation’s mostly mountainous surface are vast mineral reserves, including iron, gold, magnesite, zinc, copper, limestone, molybdenum, graphite, and more—all told about 200 kinds of minerals. Also present are large amounts of rare earth metals, which factories in nearby countries need to make smartphonesand other high-tech products.

    Estimates as to the value of the nation’s mineral resources have varied greatly over the years, made difficult by secrecy and lack of access. North Korea itself has made what are likely exaggerated claims about them. According to one estimate from a South Korean state-owned mining company, they’re worth over $6 trillion. Another from a South Korean research institute puts the amount closer to $10 trillion.

    State of neglect
    North Korea has prioritized its mining sector since the 1970s (pdf, p. 31). But while mining production increased until about 1990—iron ore production peaked in 1985—after that it started to decline. A count in 2012 put the number of mines in the country at about 700 (pdf, p. 2). Many, though, have been poorly run and are in a state of neglect. The nation lacks the equipment, expertise, and even basic infrastructure to properly tap into the jackpot that waits in the ground.

    In April, Lloyd R. Vasey, a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, noted that:

    North Korean mining production has decreased significantly since the early 1990s. It is likely that the average operational rate of existing mine facilities is below 30 per cent of capacity. There is a shortage of mining equipment and North Korea is unable to purchase new equipment due to its dire economic situation, the energy shortage and the age and generally poor condition of the power grid.

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    Don’t expect stable electricity. (NASA, Wikimedia Commons)
    It doesn’t help that private mining is illegal in communist North Korea, as are private enterprises in general (at least technically). Or that the ruling regime, now led by third-generation dictator Kim Jong-un, has been known to, seemingly on a whim, kick out foreign mining companies it’s allowed in, or suddenly change the terms of agreements.

    Despite all this, the nation is so blessed with underground resources that mining makes up roughly 14% of the economy.

    A “cash cow”
    China is the sector’s main customer. Last September, South Korea’s state-run Korea Development Institute said that the mineral trade between North Korea and China remains a “cash cow” for Pyongyang despite UN sanctions, and that it accounted for 54% (paywall) of the North’s total trade volume to China in the first half of 2016. In 2015 China imported $73 million in iron ore from North Korea, and $680,000 worth of zinc in the first quarter of this year.

    North Korea has been particularly active in coal mining in recent years. In 2015 China imported about $1 billion worth of coal from North Korea. Coal is especially appealing because it can be mined withrelatively simple equipment. Large deposits of the stuff are located near major ports and the border with China, making the nation’s bad transportation infrastructure less of an issue.

    For years Chinese buyers have purchased coal from North Korea at far below the market rate. As of last summer, coal shipments to China accounted for about 40% (paywall) of all North Korean exports. But global demand for coal is declining as alternatives like natural gas and renewables gain momentum, and earlier this year Beijing, in line with UN sanctions, began restricting coal imports from its neighbor.

    The sanctions game
    After North Korea conducted its first nuclear test in 2006, the UN began imposing ever stronger sanctions against it. Last year the nation’s underground resources became a focus. In November 2016, the UN passed a resolution capping North Korea’s coal exports and banning shipments of nickel, copper, zinc, and silver. That followed a resolution in March 2016 banning the export (pdf) of gold, vanadium, titanium, and rare earth metals.

    The resolutions targeting the mining sector could hurt the Kim regime. Before they were issued, a 2014 report on the country’s mining sector by the United States Geological Survey noted that (pdf, p. 3), “The mining sector in North Korea is not directly subject to international economic sanctions and is, therefore, the only legal, lucrative source of investment trade available to the country.”

    That is no longer the case.

    Of course, Pyongyang has grown adept at evading such sanctions, especially through shipping. Glimpses of its covert activities come from occasional interceptions of vessels. Last August Egyptian authorities boarded a ship laden with 2,300 tons (2,087 metric tons) of iron ore heading from North Korea to the Suez Canal (they also found 30,000 rocket-propelled grenades below the ore).

    Earlier this year a group of UN experts concluded that North Korea, despite sanctions, continues to export banned minerals. They determined, as well, that North Korea uses another mineral—gold—along with cash to “entirely circumvent the formal financial sector.”

    Interested neighbors
    Meanwhile China’s overall trade with North Korea actually increased 37.4% (paywall) in the first quarter compared to the same period last year. Its imports of iron ore from North Korea shot up 270% in January and February from a year ago. Coal dropped 51.6%.

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    Plenty of iron ore in Musan. (Reuters/John Ruwitch)
    North Korea’s neighbors have long had their eyes on its bonanza of mineral wealth. About five years ago China spent some $10 billion on an infrastructure project near the border with North Korea, primarily to give it easier access to the mineral resources. Conveniently North Korea’s largest iron ore deposits, in Musan County, are right by the border. An analysis of satellite images published last October by 38 North, a website affiliated with Johns Hopkins University, showed mining activity was alive and well in the area.

    China particularly covets North Korea’s rare earth minerals. Pyongyang knows this. It punished Beijing in March by suspending exports of the metals to China in retaliation for the coal trade restrictions.

    Meanwhile Russia, which also shares a (smaller) border with North Korea, in 2014 developed plans to overhaul North Korea’s rail network in exchange for access to the country’s mineral resources. That particular plan lost steam (pdf, p. 8), but the general sentiment is still alive.

    But South Korea has its own plans for the mineral resources. It sees them as a way to help pay for reunification (should it finally come to pass), which is expected to take decades and cost hundreds of billions or even trillions of dollars. (Germany knows a few things about that.) Overhauling the North’s decrepit infrastructure, including the aging railway line, will be part of the enormous bill.

    In May, South Korea’s Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport invited companies to submit bids on possible infrastructure projects in North Korea, especially ones regarding the mining sector. It argued that(paywall) the underground resources could “cover the expense of repairing the North’s poor infrastructure.”

    https://qz.com/1004330/north-korea-...-wealth-and-its-neighbors-want-a-piece-of-it/
     
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    y más...

    China y Corea del Norte conjuntamente tienen el más de 95% de todos los yacimientos conocidos de Tierras Raras (Rare Earth Elements) sin los cuales el Pentagono no puede ni estarnudar.....

    jojojo...motivo más valido que cualquier otra cosa para las declaraciones de furia de Trump, la campaña de demonización del "Kim el Loco" que lleva ya años (acordémonos que fue Donald Rumsfeld que en 2000 vendió
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/may/09/nuclear.northkorea
    la tecnología nuclear que hoy en día utiliza Corea del Norte :eek: :sneaky:
    ¡qué comodo para crear el Frankenstein contra el cual descargar la furia que "nos" dará el motivo/la excusa- al Pentagono, el velador de la democracia por el mundo :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: :banghead::banghead: - para lanzarse en operación punitiva y poner su zarpa ávida sobre dichos yacimientos que de otra forma pondría a la industria armamentista US de rodillas ante China...

    2012: Largest known rare earth deposit discovered in North Korea

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    http://www.mining.com/largest-known-rare-earth-deposit-discovered-in-north-korea-86139/

    Privately-held SRE Minerals on Wednesday announced the discovery in North Korea of what is believed to be the largest deposit of rare earth elements anywhere in the world.

    SRE also signed a joint venture agreement with the Korea Natural Resources Trading Corporation for rights to develop REE deposits at Jongju in the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea for the next 25 years with a further renewal period of 25 years.

    The joint venture company known as Pacific Century Rare Earth Mineral Limited, based in the British Virgin Islands, has also been granted permission for a processing plant on site at Jongju, situated approximately 150 km north-northwest of the capital of Pyongyang.

    The initial assessment of the Jongju target indicates a total mineralisation potential of 6 billion tonnes with total 216.2 million tonnes rare-earth-oxides including light REEs such as lanthanum, cerium and praseodymium; mainly britholite and associated rare earth minerals. Approximately 2.66% of the 216.2 million tonnes consists of more valuable heavy rare-earth-elements.

    According Dr Louis Schurmann, Fellow of the Australasian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy and lead scientist on the project, the Jongju deposit is the world’s largest known REE occurrence.

    The 216 million tonne Jongju deposit, theoretically worth trillions of dollars, would more than double the current global known resource of REE oxides which according to the US Geological Survey is pegged at 110 million tonnes.

    Minerals like fluorite, apatite, zircon, nepheline, feldspar, and ilmenite are seen as potential by-products to the mining and recovery of REE at Jongju.

    Further exploration is planned for March 2014, which will includes 96,000m (Phase 1) and 120,000m (Phase 2) of core drilling, with results reported according to the Australia’s JORC Code, a standard for mineral disclosure similar to Canada’s widely used National Instrument 43-101.

    http://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2016/05/heres-way-out-our-rare-earths-mess/128250/

    The Pentagon recently received what amounts to a grade of F on its efforts to ensure that its suppliers can continue to obtain the rare-earth metals that make possible many of today’s advanced weapons and other technologies. After nearly two decades of Defense Department fecklessness, it’s up to lawmakers to act.

    In stark terms, a Government Accountability Office report described how defense officials have failed to meet, and even to identify, their legal and national security obligations with regard to this “bedrock” national-security concern. Instead, defense officials have repeatedly given the all-clear signal to Congress and two administrations.

    Depending on when you want to start the clock, this “bedrock” problem is now a teenager or old enough to vote. The last U.S. rare-earth mine ceased mining operations in 1998, the same year that the premiere U.S. rare-earth metallurgist company, Indianapolis-based Magnequench, was essentially sold to members of Deng Xiaoping’s family. Magnequench’s facility was shut down, moved and reopened in China in 2003.

    Since then, U.S. defense contractors have become completely reliant on Chinese sources for rare-earth metals, alloys, and magnets—directly or indirectly. The short list of reliable non-Chinese metallurgy companies get all of their rare earth oxides from China and their production is fully committed to Japan and other industrial users. Outside this small circle, there is an even shorter list of financially troubled metallurgical companies that have ongoing quality control issues, limited capabilities, and uncertain economic futures. None of these currently supply U.S. defense contractors. The reality is that all rare earth metallurgy used in U.S. defense systems originates in or must pass through China....(con prospectivas de Corea del Norte ;) )

    This means that Boeing, Raytheon, General Atomics, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics, and all of the other primary defense contractors are beholden to China for these critical materials. The contractors themselves have remained quiet on this issue, though they have privately expressed their fear of supply disruption and loss of Chinese contracts if they get on Beijing’s bad side. Control over the supply of critical materials and enormous contracts thereby gives China tangible control over the financial fortunes of the defense industry. Perhaps this also helps explain the Pentagon’s unwillingness to force a solution.

    http://www.themontrealreview.com/2009/Rare-Earth-Metals-North-Korea-New-Trump-Card.php

    After 2008 the stalled inter-Korean cooperation left North Korea without South Korean financial assistance. Western humanitarian aid has also been exhausted or reduced to a number of goods with little market value. Although the volume of North Korea’s foreign trade is negligible, the domestic economic situation continues to improve. Pyongyang is routinely suspected of violating international sanctions by trading arms, smuggling drugs, counterfeiting US dollars and other crimes. These activities would be expected to refill the impoverished state with badly needed foreign exchange. However, anti-proliferation operations and bank account arrests have never disclosed anything criminal nor did they manage to answer the main question: where does the money come from?

    In fact, North Korea is sitting on the goldmine. The northern side of the Korean peninsula is well known for its rocky terrain with 85% of the country composed of mountains. It hosts sizeable deposits of more than 200 different minerals, of which deposits of coal, iron ore, magnesite, gold ore, zinc ore, copper ore, limestone, molybdenum, and graphite are the largest and have the potential for the development of large-scale mines. After China, North Korea’s magnesite reserves are the second largest in the world, and its tungsten deposits are almost the sixth-largest in the world. Still the value of all these resources pales in comparison to prospects which promise the exploration and export of rare earth metals.

    Rare earth metals are a group of 17 elements which are found in the earth’s crust. They are essential in the manufacture of high-tech products and in green technologies, such as wind turbines, solar panels or hybrid cars. Known as “the vitamins of high-tech industries,” REMs are minerals necessary for making everything that we use on a daily basis, like smartphones, LCDs, and notebook computers. Some Rare earth metals, such as cerium and neodymium, are crucial elements in semiconductors, cars, computers and other advanced technological areas. Other types of REMs can be used to build tanks and airplanes, missiles and lasers.

    South Korea estimates the total value of the North’s mineral deposits at more than $6 trillion USD. Not surprisingly, despite high political and security tensions Seoul is showing a growing interest in developing REMs together with Pyongyang. In 2011, after receiving permission from the Ministry of Unification, officials from the Korea Resources Corp visited North Korea twice to study the condition of a graphite mine. Together with their counterparts from the DPRK’s National Economic Cooperation Federation they had working-level talks at the Kaesong Industrial Complex on jointly digging up REMs in North Korea. An analysis of samples obtained in North Korea showed that the type of rare earth metals could be useful for manufacturing LCD panels and optical lenses.

    The joint report also revealed that there are large deposits of high-grade REMs in the western and eastern parts of North Korea, where prospecting work and mining have already begun. It also reported that a number of the rare earth elements are being studied in scientific institutes, while some of the research findings have already been introduced in economic sectors. The North built a REM reprocessing plant in Hamhung in the 1990s but has been unable to put the plant into full operation due to power and supply bottlenecks.

    Rare earth minerals are becoming increasingly expensive, as China, the world’s largest rare earth supplier, puts limits on its output and exports. In February China’s exports of rare earth metals exceeded the price of $1 million USD per-ton, a nearly 900% increase in prices from the preceding year. China, which controls more than 95% of global production of rare earth metals, has an estimated 55 million tons in REM deposits. North Korea has up to 20 million tons of REM deposits, but does not have the technology to explore its reserves or to produce goods for the high-tech industry. Nevertheless, in 2009 the DPRK’s exports of rare metals to China stood at $16 million USD, and as long as someone invests, exports will continue to expand.
     
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    y luego, es más que interesante intentar escuchar la otra version, la de "Kim el Loco", de por qué esas demostraciones de fuerza tan crazy...me molesté en buscar la fuente original de las declaraciones de Corea del Norte que van a responder con fuerza a toda provocación US..lo curioso es que aunque de eso se hizo eco en todo mass-medium que se respetara, ninguno de ellos dió el texto completo de dichas declaraciones para que nos enteraramos acerca de con qué motivo tanta beligerancia...achacando al "Kim el Loco" era suficiente. ya. lo mismo que "las armas químicas de destrucción de masa" de Saddam que nunca existieron.

    ...dejados al margen los mas que importantes REE, la historia de esa animadversión, entre Corea del Norte y los EEUU, va muchos decenios, parece ser, atrás en el tiempo, todavía con la creación de las dos Coreas...Phyonyang estima que, literalmente, "la única forma de defenderse de la agresión del imperialismo US es desarrollar las armas nucleares":

    http://www.kcna.kp/kcna.user.article.retrieveNewsViewInfoList.kcmsf#this

    “From long ago, the U.S. regarded invasion of Korea, gate to the Asian continent, as the important key for implementing the strategy for world domination. It artificially divided Korea, which is neither a war criminal nor the defeated in the Second World War, and unhesitatingly committed the most monstrous crimes unprecedented in history.

    The U.S., from its gangster-like nature not to allow the existence of the DPRK, has cooked up a lot of illegal anti-DPRK “sanctions resolutions” and increased them while resorting to the nuclear threats and blackmail to it.

    It is the instinct of human being to protect himself or herself from the attack of brutes and it is a righteous step to defend the safety of each nation and security of its country from the aggression of outsiders.

    The DPRK took the option of having access to the strongest nuclear force to defend its sovereignty and the right to existence of the nation from the highhanded and arbitrary practices of the U.S.


    By taking the option the DPRK declared an end to the gangster-like logic and Yankee-style way of existence that all the countries on the earth should be colonies serving the U.S. interests or fall victim to the U.S.

    Now standing before the “only superpower in the world” are the heroic people of Juche Korea, who created the legendary war victory by shattering the myth of “mightiness” of the U.S. imperialists with rifles 60 odd years ago. Today they have the most powerful strategic weapons, Juche weapons with the U.S. mainland in their striking range.

    It is a foolish calculation for the U.S. to think that its mainland would be safe across the ocean.

    The more “sanctions resolutions” aimed at depriving the DPRK of its sovereignty and rights to existence and development would only stir up the hatred of the Korean army and people toward the gangster-like U.S. and harden their will to retaliate against it thousand times.

    The way out for the DPRK is to bolster up the state nuclear force, and the DPRK will never step back even an inch from the road of justice chosen by itself, no matter what others may say. -0-“

    el sito es la agencia de noticias gubernamental de Corea del Norte, que tiene versiones EN ESPAÑOL, ingles y ruso.

    http://www.kcna.kp
     
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    Ya no se que pensar, quien está más loco si el coreano o el pato Donald,esto es un cachondeo,miedo no me da,me divierte el espéctaculo que están dando jajajajaja.Quien va apretar primero el botón rojo???.Quizás el coreano,tiene muy mala leche.El Donald es un fanfarrón, que tiene una cantidad de marrones... que lo van enterrar en su propia:poop::LOL:
     
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    Donald Trump cuenta poco, muy poco.
    tiene detrás a todo el Establishment (del cual de momento no h limpiado, nada, como prometía en campa;a electoral, mas bien al contrario...y Kilary ni va a oler la carcel, que cosas)...cuyo brazo ejecutivo es el Pentagono...en necesidad de los recursos naturales de Kim el Loco :sneaky:...
     
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    Se veia venir...es la conclusion de ya varios años de confrontaciones en el sudeste asiático...ahora ya no hay duda, el gobierno chino se ha pronunciado: si los EEUU o Sur Corea atacan a Corea del Norte China no se quedara mirando...defendera sus intereses...que coinciden con el estatus quo en la peninsula coreana y son opuestos a los apetitos US:

    "Beijing is not able to persuade Washington or Pyongyang to back down at this time. It needs to make clear its stance to all sides and make them understand that when their actions jeopardize China's interests, China will respond with a firm hand.

    China should also make clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten US soil first and the US retaliates, China will stay neutral. If the US and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so."

    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1060791.shtml
     
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    Estos dos están llenos de testosterona que usan para mejorar los niveles de popularidad en sus respectivos chiringuitos. Están jugando a ver quién la tiene más grande. No pasará nada.
     
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